为何一些富人穿的跟流浪汉一样?
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核心提示:我有1400万美元净资产,单身,40岁。我的收入是每年65万美元。这是我买衣服的钱:我最值钱的是,牛仔裤60美元,衬衫60美元,鞋子100美元。
为何一些富人穿的跟流浪汉一样?
Why do some wealthy people dress like bums?
评论:我有1400万美元净资产,单身,40岁。我的收入是每年65万美元。这是我买衣服的钱:我最值钱的是,牛仔裤60美元,衬衫60美元,鞋子100美元。我的西装、休闲裤和运动夹克都是在我的海外旅行中才穿(我经常为了乐趣而旅行).....
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Why do some wealthy people dress like bums?
为何一些富人穿的跟流浪汉一样?
Anonymous
Answered Jul 14, 2018
I have a $14 mil. plus net worth. Selfmate and in my mid-40’s. My income is $650k per year. Here is what I pay for clothing - My max is - $60 for jeans, $60 for a shirt, $100 for shoes. My suits, slacks, and blazers are tailor made during my overseas trips (I travel a lot for pleasure). I buy the top notch material online from the UK, Italy and France usually ( $250 on sale) and I pay $100 to the tailors overseas (Balkans, Turkey, Eastern Europe). If I ordered the same bespoke suits in the US they would range around $2500. I buy clothes twice a year and that is it. I do have 12 watches that are worth $150k altogether.
I work for myself so I do not have to abide by a dress-code. It is not unusual to see me with a drivers cap, a t-shirt, and Lucky Brand jeans, a pair of Puma El Rey’s and my Breuget Type XXI Flyback or a Lacoste shirt (always buy them on sale), Old Navy jeans, Penguin shoes and Glashutte Original Senator Diary.
I do not own any Versace. Tom Ford, or Gucci.
I like watches because If you buy them at the right price you can recover your money 100% or near it. Heck sometimes even make money on them. I’m also fascinated by high horology. But that is a whole different subject.
Do I look like a bum? Perhaps most of the times, unless you see me at a wedding where I’m wearing one of my hand tailored 140’s suit and my Vacheron Constantin Patrimony.
Now answer me this - Why do guys that are barely able to pay their bills try and dress like they are rich? I have associates and people that depend on my business and are barely eking out a living show up in $200 jeans (True Religion), waiting 1 hour before their checks are printed.
To attract a mate? I don''''t have that problem . To try and impress their family and friends? All I worry about is impressing “ME”. To try and land a business deal? I beyond that.
It’s a sad state of affairs. The rich dress like bums and the poor dress like movie stars. In short the rich dress like bums because they can dress like bums, the poor dress flashy because … well I don''''t know the answer to that?
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我有1400万美元净资产,单身,40岁。我的收入是每年65万美元。这是我买衣服的钱:
我最值钱的是,牛仔裤60美元,衬衫60美元,鞋子100美元。我的西装、休闲裤和运动夹克都是在我的海外旅行中才穿(我经常为了乐趣而旅行)。我通常在网上从英国、意大利和法国购买一流的材料(售价250美元),然后花100美元给海外的裁缝定做(巴尔干半岛、土耳其、东欧)。如果我在美国订购同样的定制西装,价格在2500美元左右。我一年买两次衣服,仅此而已。我有12块价值15万美元的手表。
Ludwig Rosiclair
Apr 30, 2019 · 9 upvotes
I think it has a lot to do with the fact people feel empty inside and don’t quite understand their purpose and/or won’t pursue it. So instead they try to buy their happiness and self-worth. I know because I tried desperately in my mid twenties. I had bought things I had no business buying. Especially as a broke kid fresh out of school with a shit ton of debt. But that’s what main stream america taught me how to live my life. Make money and consume the country.
我认为这与人们内心感到空虚,不太理解他们的目的或不愿追求它有很大关系。
因此,他们试图用金钱来实现自己的幸福和自我价值。我知道,因为我在25岁左右的时候拼命尝试过。我买了不该买的东西。特别是作为一个刚从学校毕业,背负着一大堆债务的破产孩子。
但,这就是美国主流教会我如何生活的——赚钱,消费。
Z X
Aug 9, 2018 · 14 upvotes
Comes down to insecurity of one’s station in life and overcompensation with material obxts and status symbols to impress others. The American hamster wheel. But it stimulates the economy and markets so that the truly wealthy further profit. Like the saying goes…Big hat but no cattle.
归结起来就是,一个人的生活中地位的不安全感和用物质、地位的象征来给别人留下深刻印象的过度补偿。
美国的仓鼠轮。
但这可以刺激经济和市场,让真正富有的人获得更多利润。就像俗话说的,光鲜其外败絮其中。
John Mark
Jul 26, 2018 · 3 upvotes
Wow!!! This phenomenon is very fascinating and worth studying.
哇! ! !这种现象非常有趣,值得研究。
Greg Anthony
Aug 8, 2018 · 5 upvotes
You can find more in depth information in other areas of Quora..though I’m too lazy for a lix. The basic theory is that everyone tries to impress those in their economic sphere by sending signals. These signals of wealth or at least of stability can be cell phones (poor), Euro cars (middle class), or for the wealthy- the ability to be indifferent. This can sometimes be seen in the workplace. I find it a bit fantastic to believe the majority of wealthy have things like yachts or personal jets. Most of what I see are ‘millionaire next door’ types who either own a blue collar business or folks that no longer need to work since their residual income is greater than a modest lifestyle. Interesting to note are those that want six figure jobs out of law/medical school without realizing that they come with 65–70 hour work weeks. Divide that up, subtract taxes and you are at what, $20 an hour? Same as my uncle pays welders at his business. Yet think about the lifestyles associated with these positions and also where these jobs are located. $20 an hour with a German auto and downtown Boston/Chicago/LA apartment is laughable. Best advice I ever got was when I was 18 and had $7200 to my name thinking I was rich. Other family members smirked and said that if you have under $10,000 you are broke, even with low overhead. Second best advice was Mark Cuban saying that you should keep your expenses as low as humanly possible so you are free to do what you want in life. Very true. My favorite reason a friend gave to me about why she was broke included the fact that she just didn’t care- she didn’t want to be restricted in life so she spends all her money and has a hell of a time doing it. I love it!
你可以在Quora的其他地方找到更有深度的信息。我太懒了,就不贴出链接了。
基本理论是,每个人都试图通过发出信号,在自己的经济领域给人留下深刻印象。这些财富象征或至少是稳定的信号可以是手机(穷人)、欧洲汽车(中产阶级),也可以是对富人的冷漠。这有时可以在工作场所看到。
我觉得相信大多数富人都拥有游艇或私人飞机有点不可思议。我看到的大多数都是“邻家百万富翁”类型的人,他们要么是拥有蓝领企业,要么是不再需要工作的人,因为他们的剩余收入已经超过了适度的生活方式。
值得注意的是,那些想从法学院或医学院毕业后从事六位数收入工作的人,并没有意识到他们每周工作65-70个小时。除掉它,减去税金,你的工资是多少,每小时20美元?就像我叔叔在他的公司里给焊工发工资一样。
但是想想与这些职位相关的生活方式以及这些工作的位置。20美元一小时、德国车和波士顿/芝加哥/洛杉矶市中心的公寓这种组合是可笑的。
我得到的最好的建议是在我18岁的时候,当时我名下有7200美元,以为自己很富有。其他家庭成员傻笑着说,如果你的钱不足1万美元,就算你的日常开支很低,你也破产了。第二好的建议是Mark Cuban说的:你应该尽可能地把开支控制在最低水平,这样你就可以自由地做你想做的事情。
非常正确。我最喜欢的一个朋友给我的关于她为什么破产的理由是,她根本不在乎——她不想在生活中受到限制,所以她把所有的钱都花光了,沉浸其中。
我爱这点!
Paul Howey, CEO at Talkroute
upxed Nov 30
I’m not going to post an actual picture but one of my neighbors dresses and looks almost identical to Richard from Silicon Valley:
The starting price for a home in this neighborhood is around 2.5M and his home is probably worth closer to 4M.
And he dresses this way every single day…
And he is not alone…
Almost every other person in my neighborhood dresses in the same casual attire void of any branding and logos. Do they look like “bums”? No, but they definitely don’t dress in a manner that says, “hey, look at me”.
If you ran into my neighbor on the street, you would probably not give him a second look and if you did, you probably would assume he is going to have trouble making this month’s rent lol…
What is funny is that less than a mile away there are a lot of small condos and you constantly see the women living there carrying LV bags and guys sporting all sort of clothing with high-end branding, while most of them are living paycheck-to-paycheck.
I have noticed that the wealthy don’t seem to feel that it’s necessary to bring attention to the fact that they are wealthy and those that wish they were wealthy, want to appear in a manner that makes them look wealthy. It’s quite amusing.
Then there is the super wealthy and most of them will only wear branded clothing that they have a vested interest in. In other words, unless they own the company, or at least a part of it, they aren’t going to walk around advertising their competitors. But that’s on an entirely other level :)
Here is the way I see it…
If we are truly honest with ourselves, there are probably only 2 or 3 things that you are REALLY into and you should feel free to spend your hard earned money on those things.
So if you are into fashion, by all means… buy and wear the clothing that you like.
Where the issues start is when you begin spending money on things that you don’t really care about because you want to impress other people.
That’s something most wealthy people simply don’t do. If they aren’t into shoes, they aren’t going to spend 1k on a pair of Gucci loafers. Regardless if they can easily afford it or not. While someone else will max out their credit card so they can try and impress someone that they don’t even like…
So whether it’s clothes, watches, cars or whatever… if you are truly into it and if you have the means to enjoy those luxuries, go for it. Just forget about the rest of the stuff you don’t really care about. At the end of the day, the only person you should be worried about impressing is yourself.
Paul Howey, Talkroute公司CE
我不会发布一张真实的照片,但是我的一个邻居的衣服看起来几乎和来自硅谷的理查德一模一样:
而他的房子看起来是这样的:
在这个街区,一套房子的起拍价约为250万美元,而他的房子的价值可能接近400万美元。但他每天都穿成那样……而他这样的人并不孤单(不是只有他才穿成这样)。
在我的社区里,几乎每个人都穿着同样的休闲服装,没有任何品牌和标识。他们看起来像“混蛋”吗?不,但他们绝对不会打扮成那种“嘿,看看我”的样子。
如果你在街上碰到我的邻居,你可能不会多看他一眼,如果你看了,你可能会认为他这个月的房租会有问题,哈哈。
有趣的是,在不到一英里的地方,有很多小公寓,你经常看到住在那里的女人拎着LV包包,男人穿着各种高档服装,而他们大多数人都是靠工资生活。我注意到,富人似乎不觉得有必要让人们注意到他们是富有的,而那些希望自己是富有的人,则希望以一种让自己看起来富有的方式出现,这很有趣。此外,还有超级富豪,他们中的大多数人只穿自己感兴趣的品牌服装。换句话说,除非他们拥有这家公司,或者至少是公司的一部分,否则他们不会到处宣传自己的竞争对手。当然那完全是另一个层面的事儿了/笑
以下是我的看法:
如果我们真的对自己诚实,可能只有2到3件事是你真正喜欢的,你应该把你的辛苦钱花在这些事情上。所以,如果你对时尚感兴趣,一定要买自己喜欢的衣服穿。当你开始把钱花在你并不真正关心的事情上,因为你想给别人留下深刻印象时,问题就出现了。
这是大多数富人根本不会做的事情。如果他们不喜欢鞋子,他们就不会花1000美元买一双古驰(Gucci)的懒人鞋。不管他们是否能轻松负担得起。而另一些人会刷爆他们的信用卡,这样他们就可以试着给他们不喜欢的人留下深刻印象……所以无论是衣服、手表、汽车还是别的什么,如果你真的喜欢它,如果你有能力享受这些奢侈品,那就去吧。但要忘掉那些你并不真正关心的事情。在一天结束的时候,你唯一需要关心的人就是你自己。
Ludwig Rosiclair
Apr 30, 2019 · 237 upvotes including Paul Howey
Luxury brands are primarily for poor to middle class people who want to look rich. I admit I do have some “nice” clothes but nice for me is a 35 dollar dress shirt or pants and dress shoes/boots that are just south of $200 (which I’ll wear everyday for 5–6 years). You just don’t really see truly wealthy people (outside of entertainment) flaunting there wealth.
奢侈品牌主要是针对那些想要看起来富有的穷人和中产阶级。
我承认我确实有一些“好”衣服,但对我来说最好的是一件35美元的衬衫或裤子和200美元的靴子(我每天穿,穿个5-6年)。你只是没有看到真正富有的人(娱乐圈之外)炫耀财富。
Alexandra Tello
May 10, 2019 · 79 upvotes
Quick, somebody tell the Kardashians with their Hermes Birkin purses and designer clothes they are poor.
快啊,来人告诉卡戴珊姐妹不要用她们的爱马仕铂金包和名牌衣服,她们其实很穷。
Daniel Castro
May 14, 2019 · 84 upvotes
Just see the average followers of the Kardashians. As stated on the original answers “most of them will only wear branded clothing that they have an invested interest in”.
Kardashians won’t pay for the Hermes Birkin purse she got paid to wear on a event or post, but some of their million followers, who live paycheck to paycheck, will.
看看卡戴珊姐妹的粉丝就知道了。
正如最初的答案所述,“他们中的大多数人只会穿他们感兴趣的品牌服装”。卡戴珊不会为她在活动或帖子上戴的爱马仕铂金包掏钱,但她的百万粉丝中有一部分人会为此掏钱。
Bianca Nathan
Apr 29, 2019 · 206 upvotes
My mom loves those expensive brand items. Not for show, but that’s just what she loves! She has good eyes for fashion, and I am kind of similar but with a different style.
Through her, I learned that most of the luxury brand items that she bought were of the best quality that has kept their shape for decades. A lot of them are older than me! That is what my mom goes for; the quality. She doesn’t buy into trends (unless she thinks the trend is good), she just buys what she likes! We agree that there’s no point in pretending to be rich by showing off, because you’ll be respected anyway as long as you’re well mannered and look neat.
我妈妈喜欢那些昂贵的名牌商品。不是为了炫耀,但那正是她喜欢的!她对时尚很有眼光,而我有点类似,但风格不同。
通过她,我了解到她买的大多数奢侈品都是质量最好的,几十年来一直保持着它们的质量。它们很多比我的年龄都要大!
质量,这就是我妈妈喜欢的。
她不买潮流货(除非她认为潮流很好),她只买她喜欢的!我们一致认为,通过炫耀来假装富有是没有意义的,因为只要你举止得体,看起来整洁,无论如何你都会被尊重。
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Genyfer Spark, Artist/designer and Real Estate Investment (ENFP) (2010-present)
Answered Jul 15, 2018A lot of wealthy people are self made and came from absolutely nothing. They grew up with hand me downs, clothing that was too big or too small. Fashionable clothes are UNCOMFORTABLE most of time. When dressed to the nines you feel you are wearing someone else''''s clothes it''''s not who you are. The saying you never "forget where you come from" can also say, "you never forget how it feels where you came from." Women who grew up poor who can afford a pair of Jimmy Choos will wear them only to regret it within 5 minutes. Never having any nice shoes or even small heels throughout their younger years leaves them with experiencing a very low tolerance to the pain or even being able to properly walk in them. The same goes for men the crafted leather shoes are suffocating and irritating.When you are wealthy and get to know a lot of wealthy people the super wealthy kind- the ones that hold chartible fundraising Gallas/parties to raise money for the homeless at their 30 million plus estates, but would never actually sit down with a homeless person. You realize just how artificial everything and everyone is. You again feel suffocated by the fact you never really are talking to an actual person, but rather an act.You become very aware the majority of people trying to connect with you are shallow have no real genuine desire for actual friendship, but are simply working your affections to get money, opportunity or power in some form from you. Dressing down weeds out the people who are simply gold diggers or opportunistic.When it comes to finding a partner you don''''t want to attract someone who only wants you for your money. One of the biggest red flags to watch out for if you desire a very loving relationship is to avoid those that show their wealth and flaunt it to attract the opposite sex. This type of person is what you call a transactional relationship. You get to enjoy all my possessions if I choose you! Your property, if you can be bought easily you can also be sold easily.You want to be treated like everyone else. You don''''t like it when everyone everywhere treats you as if you are above them, that you are special and deserve to get the VIP treatment. Many people think this is a dream come true, but again you just want reality not artificiality. You don''''t want to be the center of attention in a monetary way. You want to be seen for who you are, not what you have.
Nikola Tosic, works at BEMapps.com
Answered May 10, 2019
Only by looking at other answers to this and other similar questions it is clear that there is a stereotype of two types of clothing:One that hides wealth,
One that creates an idea of wealth.Unfotunately, clothing is not about wealth. Most of the people do NOT buy clothes to show or hide wealth. Clothing is an expression of who they are. And this goes for everyone who ever lived and wore clothes. Even if it appears that it is about wealth, it is not. It can be about wanting to be accepted, wanting to appear important, wanting to appear young, desirable. Clothing represents how we want to appear and this is far more complex than money or no money. It has more to do with our relationships with close ones, family, friends, and also our position in society (which is not only vertical) than money.
Clothing is an aesthetic (colors, shapes, etc) choice we make daily. And just as if we had to draw a new picture every day we need to choose new clothing every day. This requires thinking which is not rational and highly emotional.
If some people choose to dress like bums then they are trying to say what they want. Ten people who dress like bums can have ten different reasons.
Generalizing it by how much money they have or which money status they want to project is incorrect.
Overall, all explanations which are based on money are usually wrong. Money, while being very important logically, has very little purpose in the our emotional reality. It is a tool, not a goal. We care about relationships and our society position, not about numbers.
Nikola Tosic, 在BEMapps.com工作
只有通过观察这个问题和其他类似问题的回答,才能清楚地看出人们对两种服装的刻板印象:
1. 隐藏财富的人
2.创造财富思维的人
不幸的是,衣服与财富无关。大多数人买衣服不是为了炫耀或隐藏财富。衣服是他们的一种表达方式。这适用于所有曾经生活和穿着衣服的人。即使表面上看起来是关于财富的,其实不是。它可以是想要被接受,想要显得重要,想要显得年轻,想要有吸引力。衣服代表了我们想要的形象,这比钱或没钱要复杂得多。
它更多地与我们和亲密的人、家人、朋友的关系有关,也与我们在社会中的地位(不仅仅是垂直的)有关,而与金钱无关。服装是我们每天做出的审美(颜色、形状等)选择。就像我们每天都要画一幅新画一样,我们每天都需要选择新衣服。这需要不理性和高度情绪化的思考。
如果有些人选择穿得像流浪汉,那么这也是他们想要表现出来的东西。10个穿得像流浪汉的人可能有10个不同的理由。用他们有多少钱或者他们想要投射的钱的状态来概括是不正确的。
总的来说,所有基于金钱的解释通常都是错误的。金钱,虽然在逻辑上很重要,但在我们的情感现实中却没有什么意义。它是一种工具,而不是一个目标。我们关心的是人际关系和社会地位,而不是一堆数字。
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