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中国将赠送巴基斯坦3架 Z-10攻击直升机作为“礼物”

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关键词:巴基斯坦 直升机 中国 礼物 攻击

核心提示:多维新闻报道:中国决定将在今年赠送巴基斯坦3架 Z-10攻击直升机作为“礼物”,而这种赠送行为非常别有用心。

China's Z-10 attack helicopter. (Internet photo)

中国的Z-10攻击直升机(武装直升机)。

China's reported decision to present Pakistan three Z-10 attack helicopters as a "gift" this year has raised suspicions of ulterior motives, says Duowei News, a US-based Chinese political news outlet.

多维新闻报道:中国决定将在今年赠送巴基斯坦3架 Z-10攻击直升机作为“礼物”,而这种赠送行为非常别有用心(多维新闻网是注册于美国纽约的中文新闻网站)。

Citing unconfirmed Russian media reports, Duowei claims that although Pakistan had shown an interest purchasing the Z-10s, which are designed by Russia's Kamov Design Bureau under contract from Beijing, China decided to give the helicopters to its "closest friend" for free.

The Z-10s, designed primarily for anti-tank missions with secondary air-to-air capabilities, will reportedly be added to the Pakistan Army aviation fleet and be deployed in the ongoing fight against terrorism in the country. The helicopter is said to be capable of targeting the enemy in the air or on the ground with a range of 3-4 kilometers without appearing on radar.

援引未经证实的俄罗斯媒体报道,多维称,虽然巴基斯坦曾表示有兴趣购买Z-10S,但是因为是由俄罗斯的卡莫夫设计局设计的,所以中国决定赠送直升机给它的“最亲密的朋友”。

Z-10s主要用于反坦克任务其次用于空对空的能力,据报道他可能加入巴基斯坦陆军航空舰队并且部署在全国持续的打击恐怖主义战斗中去。直升机被认为是能够不被雷达发现并且具有3-4公里范围的对空对地的打击能力。

Some military experts have cast doubt on the effectiveness of the Z-10 on counterterrorism operations, saying that its WZ-9 operation engine has relatively low power as well as a smaller payload and weaker defensive capabilities in comparison to other attack helicopters.

Even if the reports of the gift are true, Duowei said, the new Z-10 helicopters will only enhance Pakistan's position against India, which is about to pair its domestically produced light combat helicopters with newly imported AH-64 Apache attack helicopters manufactured by Boeing. Though there is still a sizable gap between the power systems of Z-10s and Apaches, the Chinese aircraft's body design and weapon system configurations are comparable to the world's most advanced attack helicopters, especially because of the excellent performance of its TY-90 air-to-air missiles.

For China, the "gift" to Pakistan could serve as a gift for the givers as well, as it might allow the PLA to see how the Z-10s perform in actual combat situations, providing valuable data for further research and development, Duowei said. China may have already been collecting information on its domestically produced weaponry acquired by Pakistan in recent years, including the MBT-3000 tank, the JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft and the F-22P general purpose frigate. The decision to make the Z-10s a gift instead of selling them could therefore stem from Pakistan's limited defense budget and China's relatively robust arms industry, Duowei added.

一些军事专家在对武直十的反恐行动的有效性表示怀疑,他说,相较于其他攻击直升机来说其WZ-9发动机的运转具有相对较低的功效以及更小的有效载荷和较弱的防御能力。

即使赠送的报道属实,多维说,新的Z-10直升机只会增加巴基斯坦对印度的姿态,主要是为了对抗印度最新进口波音公司的阿帕奇。虽然Z-10S和阿帕奇直升机的动力系统之间仍然有一个相当大的差距,但是中国飞机的机身设计和武器系统配置可以媲美世界顶尖产品特别是因为它的TY-90空对空导弹。

对于中国来说,把Z-10直升机作为一个礼物来说对于送礼者是再好不过了,因为它可能让解放军看到Z-10S在实战情况下的表现如何,从而提供有价值的数据进行进一步的研究和开发,多维说。中国可能已经收集近年来关于其巴基斯坦获得国产武器装备的信息,包括MBT-3000坦克,JF-17雷电战斗机和F-22P通用护卫舰。这一决定使Z-10S作为礼物而不是卖给他们,就可以从巴基斯坦十分有限的国防预算中来发展中国相对强劲的军火工业,多维补充。

以下是巴基斯坦网友评论:

★There ain't no such thing as a free lunch

世上没有免费午餐

My guess is that this gift is a subtle indicator from China towards Pakistan who is batting its eyelashes towards Russia and Turkey.

我想作为中国对于巴基斯坦来说是非常微妙的尤其是当巴基斯坦和俄罗斯和土耳其眉来眼去的时候

or seeing Pakistan interested in a quite few other helicopters

或者巴基斯坦对于其他直升机不感兴趣

★it is an efficient way to secure future contracts. 

它是确保未来合同的最有效方法。

China is country which always knows his interests and China do not know about gifting any thing without any reasons. Pakistani and Pakistan should think! rather abusing India and appreciating China;

1: They have accept reality, it is Pakistani attack helicopter for counter terrorism in KPK (to provide immediate and close air support to stop ambush, convey and attacks on checkpoints.

2: India has no concern with Z10 as it have limited actions and performance in mountain areas and not much advance compared to Apache.

3: China need to end threat from Uguir muslim and they also understand threat warnings in China.

So, for Pakistan Gift is Ok no issue to accept it. But for strong and Good platform, they have look towards Good quality of attack Helicopters just not gifts only can serve them.Click to expand...yeah, big brain.

中国是一个总是顾及自己利益的国家,中国不知道馈赠别人任何东西因为没有任何理由。巴基斯坦人民和巴基斯坦应该想到这些!而不是辱骂印度和感激中国;

1:他们很实际的,这是巴基斯坦在KPK反恐使用的武装直升机(他们提供直接和近距离空中支援以避免埋伏,向检查站运输物资和协助打击)。

2:印度没有关注武直十,因为它在山区的活动很有限所以和阿帕奇没有可比性。

3:中国需要的是结束来自穆斯林的威胁,他们也懂得威胁在中国。

因此,对巴基斯坦的礼物是好的没有问题接受它。但是想要变得更加强大应该追求更好质量的的飞机而不仅仅是赠送的礼物,想依此来发展壮大?仔细想一想吧傻缺

you think pakistan people wouldn't have think about it?they need your tips? 

How can you compare 40 years ago product with a 2014 produce? Why not you compare China 1960s to China now, its it hell lot different? 

你认为巴基斯坦人民也不会去想它吗?用得着你来废话?

你怎么可以拿一个40年以前的产品(阿帕奇)和2014年的产品(武直十)作比较呢?

为什么你不拿1960年的中国和现在的中国作比较。

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China wants to test its product so it sees pakistan as the ideal testing ground. Plus they can also expect if pakistan is satisfied with it may be they'll purchase more.

中国希望巴基斯坦作为理想的试验场,以测试其产品。另外,他们还可以期待他们会购买更多,如果巴基斯坦是满意的。

They were crap quality.

屎一般的质量。他们免费的理由

The Chinese have gotten better since the days of the J-6, they are buying foreign parts and only adding indigenous versions of those parts after they are of somewhat comparable quality (although for export, we have to look at their track record of if they give the same quality in the export market as they give their own units, the russian were known to give crappier versions of their latest tech when exporting, such as with the mig-29 in the 1980's, i hope china does't do this) 

中国人自从有了歼6之后变得好了一些,他们购买国外零件然后再加上自己生产的零件这样在质量上就有了提高(即使对于出口,我们来看看他们过去糟糕的记录,如果他们给于出口市场与自己用的同样的质量的话,而俄罗斯被称为出口高科技的垃圾帝国,比如1980年的MIG-29,我希望中国不要这样做)

I don't this news is true. WZ10 is very young & it will go under lots of modifications or upgrades before its recognized as a full fledged attack helicopter.

我不知道这个消息是不是真的。武直十是非常年轻的需要在大量的实战过程中进行修改升级

Pakistan should concentrate on getting MI28 as the reports say Pakistan & Russia are in talks for MI28, so my first preference will always be MI28. 

Nothing come Free! In real world no friend exists! only interests served. 

巴基斯坦应该集中精力在MI28(米28直升机)的报道上,巴基斯坦和俄罗斯都在为MI28会谈,所以我的第一选择永远是MI28。

没有什么是免费的!在现实世界中不存在真正的朋友!只有利益。

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